This list is primarily concerned with the goings on in the Kingdom of An Tir and its various branches. We also talk about general SCA policy and happenings. This is a mid-sized list, generating anywhere from 30-100 messages per day, on average. Please be aware of this if you have a mailbox that overflows easily.
'The Steps' is short for 'The Cathedral Steps,' which, in large medieval cities would be where people would gather to gossip and meet their friends. In every medieval town there would be sort of a town square, but Cathedrals would only be found in significant Cities. The Steps represents the hub of one such large city.
The name 'The Cathedral Steps' was picked by E.B., inspired by some suggestions that I posted in May 1993. I include the relevant bits from that posting.
> The main SCA newsgroup is 'Rialto', so why not examine the > possibilities of names on a similar theme? > > Turning to the OED we find '[The name of the quarter of Venice in > which the Exchange was situated.] An exchange or mart.' <snip of a list of medieval fairs> > If not a Fair, then perhaps just other Exchanges? Turning to > Fernand Braudel, _The Wheels of Commerce_, on pages 97-98 > we find a marvellous list of alternatives. Here is a selection: > > 'In Seville ... on the gradas, the cathedral steps' > 'in Venice under the porticoes of the Rialto' > 'in Marseilles, the Loge' --quoted from a message by Thorvald
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If our message is funny, frivolous, humourous, contains puns, or is generally silly in nature, we add a 'Silly/Tavern/WOAW/TWEET' flag to the subject line so others can identify it easily.
As a side note, please make an effort to match the header of your post to the content. If a header needs changing, then by all means change it.
WOAW-Whimsical Order of the Ailing Wit
TWIT-Temporary WOAW In Training
TWEET-Temporary WOAW Evidenced Electronically [in] Training
'given to those persons who insist on sharing their obnoxious sense of humor in a public electronic format, and as a warning to everyone else who might read their posts. Members of the order (small 'o') are required to flag their punnishing messages with a TWEET somewhere, preferably in the subject header, but are not required to wear any sort of distinguishing regalia otherwise (I assume we are considered sane people in person, right?). ;-)' (Arlys O'Gordon, Steps denizen)
ODD: Order of the Double Duck. Thue it isn't seen often anymore, but some of us are still around. It's for puns or jokes that invoke laughter and another responce (groans, disgust, anger, etc.)
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Elvis is our mascot, a yak. He was originally adopted by Her Excellency Berengaria, who was Queen of An Tir at the time. Please don't barbeque, berate or otherwise abuse him. Please clean up after him if necessary (we're working on house training him, but Yaks are a little slow in this department). Remember--we always leave the site cleaner than we found it.
The tavern is a place where people socialize, tell stories, write in-persona notes, etc. It's a fun place to go to get away from the political or other intense discussion that sometimes crops up. Messages with 'tavern-talk' in them should carry a 'tavern' flag in the subject line.
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Ask questions here. Remember--there are no stupid questions, only stupid answers.
Certain topics push peoples' 'hot buttons'. These include-Tartans and their history in relation to specific clans; restricting membership vs inclusiveness; the volume of mail on the Steps; how should we choose our Royalty;
Humour is a natural way to relieve the stress of an intense discussion (read flame fest). Sometimes, it gets out of hand, but remember, the same holds true for serious discussion.
But beware, if you are caught punning (especially bad puns) too often, you may be cursed with a TWIT, a WOAW, or a TWEET, and please remember to put a 'Silly' flag in the subject line.
Everyone who posts to the Steps *should* include their name (SCA and mundane if possible) and e-mail address somewhere in the post. Please do not assume that the person receiving your mail knows who/where you are from their header. Not all newsreaders reproduce these things.
Q. WHO IS THIS MYSTERIOUS, AMAZINGLY POLITE AND GRACIOUS FAIRY GODMOTHER PERSON?
At one point in our evolution, things got a little crazy, with people leaving left, right and centre--complaining of rudeness, too much silliness, improper subject lines, too many flame-fests, not enough flame-fests, too much controversy, not enough controversy . . . well, you get the point. At that point, our most gracious and seemingly flameproof member, the one who got us all started, was volunteered as a sort of 'list guardian'. Hence the Manifesto (appended below), from which I quote:
+ We hereby invest E.B. as the Steps E-Mail Fairy Godmother with the right + to bop us on the head (gently, gently, politely, politely, and with love) + with her magic E-mail Wand if we forget our manners. We also hereby invest + her with the right to Grant a Wish in public for someone who's been especially + good lately. + + *---- + <@;-) (pointy hat and wand?) + donna@kwantlen.bc.ca + http://www.kwantlen.bc.ca/~donna
CREDITS: Compiled, edited and partially written by Lisa MacDougall (Bronwyn doesn't know what a mailing list is) with the able assistance, encouragement, input, and judicious criticism of Donna Hrynkiw (Mistress Elizabeth Braidwood), Kean Stump (Ivarr), Jason Baker (Krenn), Ralph Lindberg (Hroulg), Jess McKinnon (Kelson) and all the other Steps denizens.
+ The Steps Guide to Good E-Mail Manners + + The An Tir Mailing List (Called 'The Steps of the Cathedral' by its + residents) exists for the discussion of matters pertaining to the SCA, + the Kingdom of An Tir, and of topics of interest to its people. + + These are the Guidelines we agree to live under: + + - We post as if every message we write were going to be read by the Throne, + in Court, the next time we're called up to be given an award. + - We sign our messages with our name and e-mail address. + - We are tolerant of subject threads that bore us to death. + - We keep subject lines appropriate to the contents of the message. + - We do NOT include the entire message we are replying to. + - We DO include a few lines if our reply can't stand on its own. + - We do NOT send terse, one-line replies. + - We use emphasis to make our comments clear. (Stars, smilies, etc.) + - We use white space and keep our paragraphs short. + - We send a message directly to its intended recipient and post to the + list as a whole only if appropriate. + - If our message is funny, frivolous, humourous, contains puns, or is + generally silly in nature, we add a 'Silly/Tavern/WOAW/TWEET' flag + to the subject line so others can identify it easily. + + We agree that: + - Event copy is welcome. + - Chronicles are welcome. + - Questions are welcome. + - Extensive discussions that get into the nitty-gritty politics of how + the Society operates are welcome. + - Funny, silly, frivolous, amusing, playful, joking, cheerful postings + are welcome. + - WOAWs, TWEETs, and TWITs, are generally harmless and should be pitied. + - _Some_ merchant advertising is welcome. + - Elvis the Yak is our list mascot. + + We further agree that: + - Abusive or inflammatory language is not welcome. + - Profanity is not welcome. + - Topics not of interest to the people of An Tir are not welcome. + - Chain letters are not welcome. + - Mail bombs to each other are not welcome. **New** + + We hereby invest E.B. as the Steps E-Mail Fairy Godmother with the right + to bop us on the head (gently, gently, politely, politely, and with love) + with her magic E-mail Wand if we forget our manners. We also hereby invest + her with the right to Grant a Wish in public for someone who's been especially + good lately. + + *---- + <@;-) (pointy hat and wand?) + donna@kwantlen.bc.ca + http://www.kwantlen.bc.ca/~donna
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AT WORK: Lisa MacDougall (lmacdoug@unixg.ubc.ca)
IN THE SCA: Bronwyn ferch Elys ap Llewellyn
AT HOME: MOM!!! or MOMMY!!!!
HTML Conversion (and some minor corrections) by Krenn on Salzburg of the An Tir Webteam.
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